| (my english is terrible, sorry. and is my first forum topic, also sorry.) I finished Wonder Egg Priority a some hours ago, and I quickly went to read some reviews and I read some things like: "Wonder Egg Priority is a pseudo-intellectual anime" or "Wonder Egg Priority throw it in your face the symbolisms". First, no, Wonder Egg Priority not is "pseudo-intellectual", by a simple reason: the anime not an intellectual work. Second, yes, the symbolisms is all completely in your face, but this is the point, Wonder Egg Priority is no trying to be complex, but it is trying to work on themes and messages that need to be more than clear to the consumer, there are really moments like at the end that seem to try to be too heady, but that is the least, Wonder Egg Priority works with problems and complicated intrapersonal relationships that arise during adolescence, more specifically female, developing very important and necessary messages for the current world we live in, so what's the problem with that? I thought it was a good anime, it’s not extravagantly amazing, but it deals with important topics and does it in a way well. |
| It comes across as trying to be deep which just makes it feel pretensious. |
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| I plan on watching this when the actual finale comes out, the "special" But I knew without even glancing at the reviews that people would bawl about it being "2deep" just in being abstract or symbolic. Anime fans, I've learned, by and large, do not consume a lot of stories in other mediums. Ergo, many seem to be used to anime stories being simple and expository. "Subtext" is lost on them - why do you think Re Zero is so divisive? I'll tell you one thing, and it ain't because it's badly written. Therefore, I doubt Wonder Egg Priority is this abstract high art anime a la Monogatari. At least not headscratchingly so. I'm sure it's subtle and I give it kudos for that with regards to approaching it's heavy themes with such grace |
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| Fuck man I gave it a 10/10 and I'm not smart. All I got is an honours degree in journalism and medically diagnosed depression. No anime speaks to my depressed brain more than this one, simple as that. |
SeibaaHomuApr 3, 2021 6:22 AM
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Elhans said: What’s that about Re Zero? I haven’t watched, it I’m curious what you’re meaning to say I was only saying that there are anime like Re Zero that are divisive because those who dislike it tend to miss the point and proclaim it pointless, even though the theme is practically baked into the foundation of every conflict. Or that the dialogue is overwritten and pseudo intellectual because it's sometimes vague, which it isn't, because good dialogue is meant to sound like it's natural coming from the characters and that means not stopping to explain everything like a shounen. The dialogue in re zero never over-explains, yet it's subtext is blatant if you apply at least 10% of your brain |
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Rat_Baby said: Okay, I'll bite, what exactly is the point of re zero? There are video essays you can watch and you know it. In a sentence, it's about broken people saving one another's souls |
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| Then you just don't pay attention. Subtext is a thing, even in anime. You need to watch these things actively and not expect everything to be laid out in your lap. The only girl who actively let's Subaru know that they like him that way is Rem. He doubts even Emilia's feelings, in part because of his depression. In terms of saving each other from despair: Emilia inadvertently saved Subaru and then he did the same to her. Same with Rem, both ways. Ram wanted to save Roswaal, not knowing the true extent of how fargone he is. Subaru asked Beatrice to save him from his depression, saving her in turn. Otto saved Subaru, and later Patrache, by proving to him that people actually like him (more than once). Frederica and Garf for one another had a clear emotional development tied to one another and their separation (it's given just a couple lines, but if you actively watch then you'll catch them). In the past, Ryuzu was saved by Betty's friendship and wanted to save hers by offering it for sacrifice, tragically not knowing that she had just as strong an impact on Betty as she did on Ryuzu. Mother Fortuna and Geuse - two lonely immortals - admitted to finding strength and need in one another to get through the days. Even Elsa and Meilie had a bond neither of them expected to find that resulted in Elsa's death, which, by the way, was preceded by her cruelly summarizing all of this in one brutally shallow perspective: "If there's happiness in this world, it's the warmth that helps us forget the cold." i.e. "Our happiness takes the form of that one special thing, a basic need, be it a person or a goal, that helps us survive the shittiness of the world." Roswaal calls out people for often being too weak to even manage that much, because they're greedy and want more than that one special thing. Subaru and co. prove, for now, that this isn't an absolute while Elsa and Roswaal are overcome by their prioritizing of one goal over the "warmth" they've up until this point prioritized |
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Rat_Baby said: Well, to start with the idea that Rem is the only one to let him know they like him that way is just false. And don't you "subtext is a thing even in anime" me while rating K-On higher than Monogatari. Also, none of the things your mentioning are even related to just about any of the conflict, not even going into the ones that are massive stretches The conflicts are character-driven. How are they unrelated if part of the conflict comes from Subaru's own hangups? You give no examples to counter my point, you don't ask what my criteria for scoring individual anime seasons are, and again, you don't give any examples to counter my point. You're a child. |
Casul_Noob1997Apr 3, 2021 10:29 AM
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I'm not going to waste time listening to a spergfest clearly nobody cared enough to comment on, much less Like (that was made before the second half of season 2, mind you), when you make this laughable attempt to twist my words while confusing an external conflict with an internal conflict. You're not winning here. You aren't even close to clever. You derailed this thread with a topic that isn't even relevant to WEP because you couldn't stand to see someone giving a cartoon you disliked the credit it deserves. |
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Rat_Baby said: people like mothers basement argue the literal exact opposite of what youre claiming is so obvious I genuinely don't know if you're a troll. Like you don't even know that "saving each other's souls" goes hand in hand with the concept of loneliness and how each character struggles with it. Did I not say that Re Zero tied the internal and external conflicts together in, at the very least, the battle between Roswaal and Subaru? I genuinely don't know if you're a troll. I might have brought up Re Zero but only as a point regarding people just like you (bravo for lacking the self awareness to catch that and dragging us to this moment) |
Casul_Noob1997Apr 3, 2021 10:54 AM
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| anime never was a intellectual thing, being in your face and pretentious is a common thing in the medium, not that i blame the creators for doing it. it is what it is |
Rat_Baby said: Look man, you're the one who told me to look at vid docs about re:zero, and rhe literal most popular one says re:zero is a story about loneliness and isolation, while you're telling me it's about the bonds between people. I'm genuinely sorry for whatever happened to you in the past, but I need you to understand it does not excuse the person you've become. I'll say it again, you're not close to clever. You don't even know a theme can be more than one thing. |
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| Wait is this WEP thread or Re Zero's haha |
| Хайде, хайде, хайде, това е първата зона, брато, първа зона, първа зона, добре, добре, добре, това става тук горе, отива тук горе, само спокойно, само спокойно... Ха, отдясно е, навсякъде отдясно отдясно къде е дясното ти о да добре добре добре тихо мълчаливо не успях да се съсредоточа върху това ЕХ ТЪПАК КОГАТО СИ БАВНО БАВНО ... ой е путката на моето момиче прасе куче, аз Чувствам се добре, о, мамо, *шамар*, какво е това госпожице татко- |
| Fair. I enjoy it for reasons other than that |
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| It just sounds like more people crying and nitpicking things that are to their subjective taste anyway. Who cares if the symbolism is obvious lol. Oh no, they showed people at their most vulnerable, how dare they show scenes like that? *Rolls eyes I enjoyed it, it was raw and emotional. |
| I think that be intellectual or not the anime fulfilled my expectations, I don't have to complain. About the theories, I already finish and i keep thinking and thinking because some things don't fixed complete in my mind, i don't understand some parts that i have to think more in the future. It's not a comum anime because it's keep poking my braincells. Are you just call me dumb? |
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